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02/09/2015 01:30 PM Senate JUDICIARY

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01:34:11 PM Start
01:36:48 PM SB35
01:55:19 PM Confirmation Hearings: Select Committee on Legislative Ethics
02:07:49 PM SB30
02:35:57 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ SB 35 Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled: TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
Confirmation of Public Members to the Select
Committee on Legislative Ethics:
Dennis "Skip" Cook and Herman G. Walker
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled:
= SB 30 MARIJUANA REG;CONT. SUBST;CRIMES;DEFENSES
Heard & Held
                   SB  35-2015 REVISOR'S BILL                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:36:48 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MCGUIRE announced  the  consideration of  SB  35. "An  Act                                                               
making   corrective  amendments   to  the   Alaska  Statutes   as                                                               
recommended  by the  revisor of  statutes; and  providing for  an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:37:00 PM                                                                                                                    
LISA  KIRSCH, Assistant  Revisor of  Statutes, Legislative  Legal                                                               
and  Research  Services,  Legislative Affairs  Agency,  explained                                                               
that the Revisor's Bill is a  clean-up bill to correct and remove                                                               
deficiencies,  conflicts and  obsolete  provisions.  It does  not                                                               
make substantive changes.  A statutory section in  Title 1 allows                                                               
changes that often are typographical  errors, drafting errors, or                                                               
citation changes.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. KIRSCH stated  that SB 35 corrects some  citations to federal                                                               
law  and corrects  the format  of some  court rule  citations. In                                                               
some  places singular  has  become plural  or  plural has  become                                                               
singular to  fit the  context of  the sentence.  There are  a few                                                               
instances that  the words "but  not limited to" was  removed from                                                               
the phrase "including but not  limited to" because it is included                                                               
by implication. Finally,  the word "the" was missing  in a couple                                                               
of places and  the word "with" was mistakenly  left out. Finally,                                                               
there were a few changes in punctuation and word usage.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCGUIRE noted  that the  bill packets  contain a  detailed                                                               
sectional  analysis. She  asked if  the  bill makes  any type  of                                                               
substantive change.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. KIRSCH  replied Legislative  Legal tries  very hard  to avoid                                                               
that,  but   there  can   be  differences   of  opinion   in  the                                                               
interpretation of a statute.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MICCICHE asked  if there  is a  process if  a bill  that                                                               
passed during a  previous legislature is found to  be in conflict                                                               
with an existing statute.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. KIRSCH  explained that  manifest errors  can be  corrected in                                                               
the Revisor's  Bill, but  if it  requires legislation  to correct                                                               
the  conflict there  isn't much  the  revisor can  do to  correct                                                               
that.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:42:38 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COGHILL asked  why the sections listed in  Section 61 are                                                               
being deleted.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. KIRSCH explained  that all three are definitions  that are no                                                               
longer used.  AS 19.75.980(4)  is the  definition of  "state bond                                                               
committee" for  the Knik Arm  Bridge and Toll  Authority (KABATA)                                                               
project.  The provisions  relating to  bonding were  deleted when                                                               
KABATA  lost  its  bonding  authority,   but  the  definition  in                                                               
paragraph (4)  was overlooked. Second,  the definition  of "motor                                                               
vehicle salesperson" in AS 45.25.990(14)  was overlooked when the                                                               
term was  edited out  of a  bill that passed  in 2002.  Third, AS                                                               
46.03.900(31)  is  a  definition  for "subdivision"  that  is  no                                                               
longer used in that part of the statutes.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL  requested an explanation  of the  effective date                                                               
clauses.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KIRSCH  advised that  a  July  1,  2015 effective  date  for                                                               
section  35  is created  to  allow  all  changes to  the  statute                                                               
section to take effect on the same date.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:46:41 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MCGUIRE  asked if any  member of the legislature  has asked                                                               
to include recommendations in the Revisor's Bill.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KIRSCH replied  she couldn't  say for  certain, because  she                                                               
receives  suggestions   from  a  variety  of   sources  and  some                                                               
initially may have come from a legislator.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCGUIRE clarified  that she  wants it  to be  part of  the                                                               
public  record if  a legislator  making a  request or  suggestion                                                               
about a substantive matter.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. KIRSCH advised  that she probably could not reveal  it if she                                                               
was aware  that it  was an  attorney-client communication  with a                                                               
legislator as  a client. In  this instance, she was  unaware that                                                               
any of the  changes are a result of written  communication from a                                                               
legislator.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCGUIRE said  she asks  because despite  best efforts  and                                                               
good  intentions,   a  Revisor's   Bill  may   sometimes  include                                                               
something that  is more policy  directed by an  elected official.                                                               
That is something the public would want to know about.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI   referenced  pages  3,  19,   and  33  and                                                               
questioned whether deleting "but not  limited to" from the phrase                                                               
"including  but   not  limited  to"  might   actually  limit  the                                                               
reference to the specific things listed.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:50:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KIRSCH explained that it  is in accordance with the statutory                                                               
provision  in AS  01.10.040(b), which  applies throughout  Alaska                                                               
statutes.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     (b) When the words "includes" or "including" are used                                                                      
      in a law, they shall be construed as though followed                                                                      
     by the phrase "but not limited to."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
She said  that deleting  the terms does  not change  the meaning,                                                               
but it is up to the body if that raises concerns.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE summarized  that it could be included  but doing so                                                               
would be redundant.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. KIRSCH agreed.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI requested  an  explanation  of the  lengthy                                                               
addition in subparagraph (N) on page 7.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. KIRSCH replied that is  responsive to the previous Section 10                                                               
on  page 4  that  lists  the things  required  to  appear in  the                                                               
Articles  of Incorporation,  whereas  the provisions  set out  in                                                               
Section 11 are  permissive. The provision in  subparagraph (N) is                                                               
removed from the  mandatory provisions and added  to the optional                                                               
provisions in [Sec. 10.06.208].                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:54:18 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MCGUIRE  announced she  would hold SB  35 in  committee for                                                               
further consideration.                                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
2_9_2015 CS SB30.pdf SJUD 2/9/2015 1:30:00 PM
SB 30